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Carter
0:01
As March Madness descends upon us baseball fans, we've been set upon another type
Carter
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of madness, Trump derangement syndrome. For a while, Nikki Haley won the District of Columbia and Vermont. Vermont! Vermont, we
Carter
0:28
we have stood by and watched the Donald win state after state after state. And that is not all. Much as the Ides of March close upon us, the March of Dimes gets closer. That's
Corey
0:40
what the March of Dimes was. I'm sorry.
Corey
0:44
I'm sorry. I'm breaking your flow again. You just go. You just go. Thank
Carter
0:46
Thank you. Much as the March of Ides close upon us, as the March of Dimes gets closer, the supremest
Carter
0:52
supremest of the supreme courts in all the land have unanimously ruled that president trump cannot be excluded from the ballot by a mere state the same states that are allowed to determine all other voting rights after the supreme court gutted the voters rights act of 1964 the same states that were granted the power to determine their own abortion legislation after the supreme court disemboweled role versus wade the same states that were given the power to put the three-point line into college basketball
Corey
1:25
basketball that's also not how that went down i'm sorry growing
Carter
1:28
growing the game as we know it it was
Corey
1:31
was more like an aba did it in 1967 as
Carter
1:34
as we spring forward into a new realm where polls indicate that trump is the favorite to sweep the primaries and triumph in november we are reminded that the only place where good and evil are equal is at the equinox but that good
Carter
1:50
good day i screwed that up that last line can we do it from the top
Corey
2:03
welcome to you the people my name is cory hogan that was stephen carter and uh we are here to to talk about american
Corey
2:13
american politics we're here my
Carter
2:15
my joke's the way i laugh at my joke you
Corey
2:17
you know you're i'm proud of you though buddy i
Carter
2:20
got through it almost yeah
Carter
2:21
you were and but for that good day is
Carter
2:24
is all and and but for that good day okay
Carter
2:27
all is out of the moment's
Corey
2:28
moment's gone the moment's gone it's okay it's fine it's been a while since we've gotten together on this we are of course gathered for our super tuesday preview episode which we scheduled a couple of weeks ago because
Corey
2:39
because you told old be super tuesday was next week so it's the
Carter
2:43
the 12th i thought it was certain you
Corey
2:44
you were really sure it was the 12th i was
Carter
2:46
was really sure you
Corey
2:47
you were i was incorrect you i said things like are you sure about that and you said things like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
Carter
2:54
yeah i couldn't be more certain i think i said i
Corey
2:56
i think i'm really quite enjoying the vibe of this particular cycle where you
Corey
3:01
you are theoretically on top of all of this and i am theoretically just along for the ride um yeah
Corey
3:06
yeah but i'm not
Carter
3:08
as as that opening might have indicated i
Corey
3:13
did appreciate um the
Corey
3:15
the march of dimes you know that's a that's about polio you know that i
Carter
3:20
i searched for marches of you know like what
Corey
3:23
okay it might have was that a chat yeah yeah
Carter
3:27
i mean i think i did okay i got the equinox in yeah
Carter
3:31
yeah i got the spring forward thing in that was pretty good i'm
Corey
3:33
i'm i'll take your word for it i kind of tuned out i all i could hear Here was white noise after you talked about the three-point line being a state's right. Although, interestingly, there is an argument for that, because the NCAA governance includes so many university presidents who are appointed of
Corey
3:48
of public colleges by the state, you know, indirectly. That's exactly what I meant. That's, I thought, what you meant, yeah.
Carter
3:55
Court put that in place, right?
Corey
3:57
Okay, well, yeah, well, I'm, you know what, not going to pretend I am on top of every court decision. So maybe we'll just use that as a seamless transition into the
Corey
4:07
the first topic of the night here. It's my job to kind of chaperone
Corey
4:11
chaperone you through. Yeah, it's your show
Carter
4:11
show now, sir. It's my
Corey
4:13
my show. And the first thing I think that needs to be discussed is, you know, kind of classic Trump court watch here. There's a couple of Supreme Court decisions that are having an effect on the race here. So you want to tell us you want to talk about your favorite first, then we'll move to your second favorite. I don't know what they are. I'm just saying like, yeah,
Carter
4:32
yeah, yeah, I was kind of nervous
Carter
4:34
You might. Well, I mean, my favorite has got to be California.
Carter
4:37
I'm so excited about California.
Carter
4:40
California. I mean, what a race. What a what a what a spectacular.
Corey
4:46
But I thought we're doing court cases first. You want to go you want to talk Super Tuesday first? yeah
Carter
4:51
yeah let's do super tuesday because
Corey
4:52
because it seemed like you were transitioning on a court thing because you were talking about it doesn't matter you know what i you know what here i am cases
Carter
4:59
cases where we should go you
Corey
5:00
you know always step quickly can
Corey
5:04
can you can you fucking tell me about these supreme court cases you want to yeah
Carter
5:08
there's two big cases okay
Corey
5:09
okay there's two big
Carter
5:09
big cases first of all a big decision nine to nothing with four kind of uh dissenting votes all from the female justices ironically uh but all of them ultimately agreeing that states could not set the uh determinant factors on uh whether or not a a uh
Carter
5:27
uh president has is meeting the requirements under the constitution as being a con you know being able to uh you know face i think it's the 14th amendment and whether or not in section that is correct
Corey
5:38
correct the 14th amendment and
Carter
5:40
and well you know that's a fascinating decision because what really happened cory is not what was in the decision it was what was not in the decision oh
Carter
5:49
colorado had actually determined that trump did participate in an insurrection the supreme court was silent on that part uh while allowing while saying that the states couldn't be the determinants of whether
Carter
6:03
whether or not an insurrectionist would be allowed to run that had to come from the congress they did not rule whether or not trump in fact was an insurrectionists which i thought was relatively interesting i mean
Carter
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do you think it's
Corey
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it's a bit of a skirting for sure but it's a very classic legal decision courts like to keep things narrow especially when they're precedent setting and and to be fair i think all the way along it was tough for somebody to look at the 14th amendment which says you you can't run for one of these public offices if you're guilty of insurrection it
Corey
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it never really sort of said who decides that and there is kind of a long-standing legal tradition of, oh, I don't know, innocence until guilt is proven. And so, yeah, I mean, this one can't really shock you that much, can it?
Carter
6:48
Well, I'm not shocked. I just thought it was interesting, because I think that there was a really good opportunity to basically do what you just did and say, until such time as he's proven guilty, we're not going to determine that Trump is, in fact, an insurrectionist. That could have, I think, been part of this ruling ruling uh quite easily and or part of a separate ruling um but in fact it was just ignored by the justices and uh in colorado at least uh trump is an insurrectionist so that stands even though they're allowing him on on the ballot wow
Corey
7:20
wow america the states am i right oh
Carter
7:24
oh my god here's the other thing that bugs me about the supreme court though you want to know what else bugs me about this okay
Carter
7:30
They have decided that the presidential immunity is still a question that they need to actually decide upon. This
Corey
7:36
This is the second. I called it decision. It's not really a decision.
Carter
7:40
No, it's a decision insofar as they have decided to hear arguments in the case, which
Carter
7:46
which I think most people thought was quite a shock given how clear cut the court had been in the D.C. circuit. But here we go. Here we go. No, they're going to try and determine whether or not this actually, you know, is a thing that presidents can't be charged for any of the acts that they've committed during the presidency. Yeah,
Corey
8:09
Yeah, so this definitely seemed to legal watchers to be more of a situation where it
Corey
8:15
it seemed like the court would just slap it down and say, no, of course, the president of the United States is subject to the law. And the very fact that this is being heard, it's not even just that this might result in them agreeing that presidents are kings and above the law and that the rule of law is subordinate to the whims of the person in the office, which in its own right is, I think, very strange. But it's that even by them discussing it, even by them hearing arguments, they're pushing off the D.C. trial. And so now there's like no chance that's going to be resolved before the election, pretty much. Is that the understanding? Well,
Carter
8:49
Well, no chances, I think, pushing it, but
Corey
8:54
Oh, Stephen Fainthope Carter.
Corey
8:56
Listen, I am eternally optimistic. I guess. I mean, we'll get to Super Tuesday, but yeah. Do you
Carter
9:02
Jeb Bush? Do you remember that guy? No,
Corey
9:04
No, no one does, unfortunately. President
Carter
9:05
President of the United States of America. Yeah.
Corey
9:09
Second re-election right now, I think he's coming up at, yeah? It was so popular that they repealed the restrictions against two terms.
Carter
9:19
yeah yeah like uh what
Carter
9:21
what was that movie where they had the schwarzenegger amendment where you know you're thinking of
Corey
9:25
of demolition man demolition man a classic of the 90s classic of the 90s a very good movie sandra bullock star turn that's when we all said she you know speed i thought
Corey
9:37
thought maybe okay but here we are in demolition man sandra bullock she's got something there i'll
Carter
9:42
i'll tell you something i i ran into our good friend cyril turton uh
Carter
9:46
uh the other day yeah
Carter
9:47
yeah he said his favorite movie from the 90s was was
Corey
9:49
was a demolition man no
Corey
9:53
okay but he knows that it's a satire about fascism right you don't need to test this i
Carter
9:59
thought i could think less of him but
Carter
10:00
but i can't i mean the guy is just he's just he's at the bottom of the barrel well
Corey
10:05
well hold on i actually don't think i mean it's favorite that's crazy but it's not a bad movie but you know verhoeven when he he has this quote where he says he wanted to create a satire that was so obvious and so ridiculous that the people who watched it and got it would be tortured by the people who watched it and didn't and i think like mission accomplished because yeah anybody who's side is this
Carter
10:26
this is is the minister on which
Corey
10:28
which side is cyril on yeah yeah he
Corey
10:30
he you gotta wow they
Carter
10:32
they given he's a minister in danny's government uh
Carter
10:34
uh that he didn't get it no
Corey
10:36
no i give him more credit than that i do come on i'm gonna defend sir and danielle's god i'm gonna defend cyril here have
Carter
10:42
have Have you met him?
Carter
10:43
He plays paddle ball.
Carter
10:46
He thinks that's a fun sport. Pickleball? Is
Corey
10:48
Is that what you're going for?
Carter
10:50
There's two. There's one that's
Corey
10:52
that's pickleball and one that's paddleball. Oh, is there a paddleball and pickleball? What's paddleball?
Corey
10:55
I think it's where
Carter
10:56
where you spank your wife.
Corey
10:57
Okay. No, that's different. That's different. Hmm. Hmm. I
Carter
11:01
I thought I was thinking of the wrong thing.
Corey
11:03
I let this go off the rails. I'd like to apologize to her. This is your
Carter
11:06
your fault. We were
Corey
11:06
were talking about the
Carter
11:07
the Supreme Court a minute ago. Yeah.
Corey
11:08
Yeah. And suddenly we were on Searle and Starship Troopers.
Carter
11:12
know i'm yeah i
Carter
11:15
people pay for this i
Corey
11:17
don't know i don't know if i'm going to subject the patriots to this this might be a free episode i haven't decided we'll see how libelous you get we'll
Corey
11:25
we'll see how it goes at the
Carter
11:25
the end yeah here's my question for you about this about this
Carter
11:28
this thing you said there is no chance they're hearing this in april right the hearing how
Carter
11:35
long do you think it's going to take them to make the decision i
Corey
11:37
i think it's anticipated june they might come back i don't know how
Carter
11:41
how how long why aren't
Corey
11:42
aren't you the one who's supposed to watch because they like because you know the u.s supreme court they hear everything and
Corey
11:48
and then at the end of the term they just drop them day after day and we get like that you
Corey
11:53
you know kind of decision palooza that's how they do these things yeah
Carter
11:56
yeah but they don't have to do that they can put a decision right out after they like
Corey
11:59
like the drama they like the drama here's
Carter
12:02
here's what i think is going to happen i'm going to predict this now i want you to mark this down oh fuck are
Corey
12:06
are you have you destroyed have you destroyed western democracy are you about to destroy western democracy with a prediction first
Carter
12:12
first of all it's not entirely my fault it is well destroyed by this point okay yeah
Carter
12:18
yeah i told you about my
Corey
12:21
yeah you know i've
Carter
12:21
i've got plans to get out of here that's
Corey
12:23
that's true it all goes to
Carter
12:26
currently looking for a replacement horticulturalist as my oldest daughter has determined she's not coming with us um
Corey
12:32
that's what i have yeah i've
Carter
12:35
i've well it might have had something to do with me promising uh uh promising her to a guy who had 18 guns so okay but
Corey
12:42
18 guns that's a good number of guns how many bullets though that's an important question two cases
Carter
12:46
cases of bullets okay
Corey
12:48
how many bullets are in a case did you ask i
Carter
12:49
i don't know i you know what i made a mistake there fuck
Carter
12:52
case could have been 32 bullets and i fucked up you
Corey
12:54
you could you really you blew this yeah he
Carter
12:57
he made a big he made a big hand thing it was it was
Corey
13:00
was ian from ra2
Carter
13:01
ra2 it was a big thing okay
Corey
13:02
okay all right uh for
Carter
13:03
for those of you who don't know ra2 they're doing
Carter
13:06
really smart yeah really smart okay
Corey
13:09
i've got questions next time i see ian but anyways go on yeah here's
Carter
13:16
they hear it in april and
Carter
13:18
and they decide by the first week of may may okay
Carter
13:24
write it down did you put it on a sticky note
Corey
13:25
note i'm really upset about this prediction i really someone in
Carter
13:28
in the discord is gonna have to write this down and remind us in the first week week of may how wrong i was yeah
Corey
13:32
yeah well i'm sure someone will do that i believe in the discord to do that for sure if
Carter
13:36
if you haven't signed up for the discord and this is a free episode because cory's decided it doesn't meet the standard of our paid episodes um but
Corey
13:45
but the good news
Carter
13:45
news is for our
Corey
13:47
because you'll know there's something better there's
Corey
13:48
there's so much better
Corey
13:49
yeah there's so much
Corey
13:50
okay and if this is a paid i'm sorry you had to hear the commercial for the patreon there but you go to strategistpatreon.com and there you go yeah
Corey
13:59
unless you're already a patron in which case you don't need to go there and
Carter
14:02
and if you're one of the 20 hyper users of the discord get a job like do like volunteer at the animal shelter like
Corey
14:10
i think i might be one of those guys though so i don't know yeah i
Carter
14:12
i know you are in fact one of those guys shit all
Corey
14:15
all right okay you're
Carter
14:16
you're 19th on the list i actually did some stats today did
Corey
14:19
did you do stats today i'm 19 but i'm proud of myself i'm really proud that'd
Carter
14:23
that'd be pretty great though hey i should should have done just barely
Corey
14:26
right um okay court cases i do have one more question on this before i let you and the audience off the hook of having to talk about this anymore
Corey
14:36
okay when is gonna when is the dc trial going to be at this point what's the thinking here let's let's just say if this decision comes down as anticipated at the end of the session the
Carter
14:46
the judge has indicated that it's going to take at least three months uh from the from the decision coming in before they can start up the trial okay so
Carter
14:54
so if if it is may then theoretically it could begin in august uh if it is the end of june then it's an october trial and and i don't think that if it that the trial is going to start in october um as much fun as it is to imagine him being on trial for the last 35 days of the campaign it just does not make sense to me so that's why why like i think the start of may is really the the deadline for when this decision can come down and a trial actually start so
Corey
15:27
so here's something i've been wondering a little bit about and i bet you there's a million words written about this i'm just way behind the curve but
Corey
15:33
the u.s presidential election of course november yeah
Corey
15:37
not sworn in until january what
Corey
15:39
what if he is convicted and sent to jail in december that'd
Carter
15:44
that'd be spectacular i
Corey
15:45
i mean it's just a lot of fun to think about but nothing that would technically stop him from being sworn in at that particular moment but you would have a president sworn
Corey
15:54
sworn in in jail right like in jail he will be in jail bible chief justice sworn in then he's going to pardon himself is that what the hell is going to happen here yeah
Carter
16:03
yeah but wouldn't he be out on bail uh pending appeal like
Carter
16:07
like i think that that's ultimately what would happen yeah
Corey
16:09
yeah i mean america
Carter
16:12
i'd love to know what the bail conditions would be you
Corey
16:14
you think you can afford them
Carter
16:16
them check in with your parole officer like yeah
Carter
16:19
could you imagine like that's your parole like your parole officers mr president how are you yeah
Carter
16:24
you know like what are you gonna get the joint chiefs of staff to be the parole officer that'd be pretty great maybe
Corey
16:28
maybe maybe not maybe not i don't think so i think they're busy that'd
Carter
16:32
that'd be pretty great though okay this
Carter
16:34
this is this is an unprecedented situation we've been through this right like and and this
Corey
16:39
this this is an unprecedented situation we've been through this these
Corey
16:43
these are the words you've just said we've
Corey
16:44
we've talked about this okay that
Carter
16:46
that it's unprecedented all
Carter
16:48
i mean don't don't make fun of me uh you know i'm tired you
Carter
16:51
you know i'm barely awake you
Carter
16:53
late at night for me that's
Carter
16:55
that's true this is tough it
Corey
16:57
it is pretty late at night for you here so
Carter
17:01
this what do you think like when do you think the supreme court i don't know i don't know i
Corey
17:04
i don't have have strong opinions about this i am i am i am doing that thing where um i'm not wallowing in the impending end of democracy so i'm not going to read more than i think i need to of these stories to kind of get a thrust of perry here yeah
Carter
17:20
we are still back we're back with the dc uh january 6th case looking like it's not going to go forward probably if you're right then it's not going to happen until after the election all
Carter
17:31
the uh the georgia case uh fanny willis continues to face uh her accusations that she's um getting
Carter
17:40
getting some sort of personal benefit uh which turns out to not just be the sex it was actually about the money um that there was like vacations and things i thought it was just about the sack i don't know anything
Carter
17:54
bonnie willis and her
Corey
17:54
her talk to me about the money yeah
Carter
17:56
well the on the money side of that i'm playing
Corey
17:59
playing like the ignorant friend now just
Carter
18:02
you're so good at it thank
Carter
18:04
you it comes naturally i mean
Corey
18:05
mean i am ignorant the friend part is the part of yeah
Carter
18:07
yeah i know it's up in the air here's
Carter
18:08
here's the thing um so fanny willis had a little uh little uh rendezvous with uh one of her colleagues wow
Corey
18:18
and And you use French, so that means sex.
Carter
18:22
Her colleague paid for several trips, because apparently it wasn't just a rendezvous at her place. It wasn't just shacking up and popping by, although that was part of it as well. Okay.
Carter
18:32
It was also trips. So they would go on trips. He would pay, and
Carter
18:36
and then Fonny Willis said that she paid him back in cash.
Corey
18:40
I don't believe that. I've got to be honest.
Corey
18:41
I don't believe that. It makes him sound like a gigolo.
Carter
18:44
um and when asked when asked why she paid in cash fanny willis said this it's a black thing which
Carter
18:51
which turns out why that's why you and i just don't dismissed it because we don't understand that then fanny willis's father was called to the stand to explain why essentially it was part of their family tradition to keep heaps of cash around is
Corey
19:04
is this a thing
Corey
19:06
this is a thing i'm not that that she said this i'm asking this actually happened that she said this and then her father It actually happened
Carter
19:12
happened that she said this, and that her father was called into court to explain why they
Carter
19:17
they had a family history of gobs of cash that then they would use to pay for things like her boyfriend taking her on vacation. And
Corey
19:28
And this is a witness for the defense?
Carter
19:32
The defense being, in this case, Donald Trump. All
Corey
19:34
All right. All right. I don't want to dwell a lot on all of the legal problems. No, but you asked,
Carter
19:38
asked, and I have
Corey
19:40
I, I, yeah, but then you kind of went into other answers, but so
Corey
19:44
so that was the question that
Carter
19:45
that you asked was,
Corey
19:46
was, I don't think Atlanta, anyway, it doesn't matter. The important thing here, the important thing to keep in mind is that, uh, the wheels of justice turn slowly and not, uh, and are not just, I think that's what we've kind of concluded here. Well,
Carter
19:59
Well, here's what I'm excited about. Okay.
Carter
20:01
Let me tell you what I'm excited. All
Carter
20:02
You know, the, uh, the D the, the case that is being tried down in, in Florida, the stolen documents case. Yes. With the crazy Judge Cannon. Yeah.
Carter
20:12
That's the one that they're pushing to have the case heard sooner than later.
Carter
20:18
So I think it's in May, actually, that it's currently scheduled to start. No, I'm sorry. It's currently scheduled to start in March, and they're hoping to actually get it started in May. So wouldn't that be something if Judge Cannon was forced into hearing the case that actually brought down Donald Trump?
Carter
20:38
That'd be spectacular. Maybe,
Corey
20:39
Maybe, but she just talked about how great she thought two amicus briefs were that potentially would result in her throwing out the case entirely. So, given every other activity she's taken, I suspect we will see more bad decisions, more appeals, and more delays. That's my prediction there.
Carter
20:55
Yeah, that was a bad judge draw.
Corey
20:58
That was a bad judge draw for democracy.
Corey
21:04
it. So, is this
Carter
21:05
this the last election, by the way, just out of curiosity?
Corey
21:07
curiosity? I mean, no, they'll have sham elections still, but it's the last kind of real one.
Carter
21:11
Oh, Putin elections. Yeah, yeah.
Corey
21:16
We're not going to be saved by the courts. Clearly, though, the people, the real check on American power, the people, they all voted yesterday, not to be confused with next Tuesday. Not all of them, but how many states? Give me a number. 15
Corey
21:31
15 states. That's more than we have provinces, my friend. That's a lot of people. yeah
Corey
21:38
yeah 15 states now clearly clearly
Corey
21:40
clearly the american people the ultimate safeguard in a democracy yeah
Corey
21:44
they've they're clearly going to keep donald trump from uh becoming the president again right in this nomination process average
Carter
21:51
average margin of victory was somewhere around plus 40 um so he crushed her uh
Carter
21:58
good now in fairness i mean nikki haley did win vermont and the district of columbia in the last few days so
Corey
22:04
so oh okay she's
Carter
22:06
she's uh she's suspended her her campaign that's now that's
Carter
22:12
she regrets nothing and
Carter
22:14
i'd be like you know if i lost that big i'd regret a few i'd
Corey
22:16
i'd regret a few things yeah
Carter
22:18
yeah i'd regret a few things yeah i would have a few thoughts about myself yeah
Corey
22:21
yeah i would think maybe i didn't do good enough that's what i would think like
Carter
22:25
like how do you lose massachusetts like
Corey
22:27
well i think if you're a moderate in massachusetts you're just a democrat right like isn't it just easier to be a democrat you
Carter
22:34
you know where one of the smallest margins of victory for uh for the donald where was
Corey
22:43
good you know why romney town
Carter
22:49
us looking for sanity in
Corey
22:52
i utah is a fine state you've been to utah before no
Carter
22:55
no but i i know about utah oh
Corey
22:57
oh okay what do you know about utah that's
Carter
23:00
that's where i bought
Corey
23:02
oh okay you know you can buy those closer to home here we live in alberta i'm
Carter
23:06
i'm wearing them right now nice
Corey
23:08
nice what do they do nicer quality
Carter
23:09
quality in the states they didn't come with the sales tax no backwards they did come with the sales tax yeah
Corey
23:15
yeah i felt better
Carter
23:15
better paying it okay all
Corey
23:18
right i'm gonna give you two minutes here to summarize what you think are the highlights of super tuesday and
Corey
23:26
and uh i'm gonna put you on the clock wait
Corey
23:29
wait i'm gonna put a clock on here i'm gonna put a clock on i i gotta kind of kill time while i tell you i'm gonna put you on a clock and
Carter
23:35
and that's good you
Carter
23:43
who's uh running in tennessee uh for state treasurer or state treasurer i think it is uh he won his his his primary he has the best tiktok account of any congressman current congressman he lost his seat uh because of redistricting uh so he's going to go for state uh office california the bastion of democracy democratic principles that it is has trump up by plus 61 and it turns out that adam schiff ran a bunch of ads about steve garvey increasing his name recognition to the point where steve garvey actually came out ahead of Adam Schiff in the primary. So instead of having two Democrats running for the Senate position in California, we're now going to have Steve Garvey, who I remember from the Los Angeles Dodgers, running against Adam Schiff, which is going to make the California seat a little bit less likely to be won. Other areas that were pretty interesting, Alabama, Arkansas. Arkansas. I do love my ma and pa. See what I did there? I
Corey
24:47
I did. Yeah, that was pretty good. That was home by Edward Sharp and the Magnetic Zeros. Yeah. Yeah,
Carter
24:52
Yeah, I know that's why I did the difficult joke. Oh, okay.
Carter
24:56
Yeah, they both, they were two of the 14 states. The others were Alabama, Alaska, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Virginia, Texas, Utah, Utah, Colorado, and the aforementioned California. So significant victories for Trump, not just a little bit, but a lot. And this just basically means that the primary
Carter
25:21
primary is over. Now, as you remember, I said that the primary wasn't going to be over until such time as Super Tuesday determined it over. And
Carter
25:29
And now Super Tuesday has, in fact, determined it over. How did I do for my two minutes? One
Corey
25:34
One minute and 55 seconds. Congratulations. That was really good. you're good at timing like that it makes me kind of think about all of the long answers you've given on our other podcast
Carter
25:48
no i was i was playing the flintstones theme song in my head oh i was talking oh
Corey
25:51
oh like a hudson hawk thing yeah
Carter
25:55
i was doing it all at the
Corey
25:58
okay anybody who got that reference you're welcome yeah
Carter
26:02
here's what i was gonna ask you sir okay
Carter
26:05
you mentioned You mentioned that the people are going to save us, right?
Carter
26:07
You mentioned that the people were going to save us, and then you threw it to the primaries. The
Carter
26:12
primaries were in some fashion
Carter
26:13
fashion going to save us. Now, that seems ridiculous in hindsight, right?
Corey
26:17
It does a little, yeah.
Carter
26:19
I'm sure we don't have to worry because the choice is now very clearly between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. And the polls, the
Carter
26:27
the polls must be telling a story that I can be comfortable with. i
Corey
26:30
i mean it must it must right it's
Corey
26:33
it's got to be telling a good story like yeah i'm sure if i were just to pull up say 538.com or go to the the new york times and that's usually a pretty reputable poll yeah
Carter
26:44
yeah it turns out turns out we're fucked cory i
Carter
26:47
don't want to i don't want to skip to the end here but four polls came out in the last three days uh four really good quality polls nice
Carter
26:56
you know it was kind of sketchy before because it was like very close it was like one point two points and i was like but how can biden be losing by two points i want those polls back i
Carter
27:06
i want those two pointers back because now we're looking at fours and fives and sixes where donald trump is up by a lot and
Carter
27:16
these are quality polls these are like the new york times as you mentioned these are this is uh these
Carter
27:21
these are the cnn like there's big polls that used to even have uh biden at least neck and neck but when was the last time do you think that uh joe biden actually pulled we were pulled ahead of
Carter
27:34
our good friend donald trump i
Corey
27:36
i i'm going to guess the answer is either very recently or a very long time ago or else you wouldn't have asked it
Carter
27:41
it is a very very long time ago okay uh yeah it is not good uh we are basically uh going to be fucked nice
Corey
27:53
yeah that's not good but that's just the national polls i'm sure when you break it down by state i'm
Corey
28:00
i'm sure when you break it down by state it must be better right well
Carter
28:03
well i mean like why don't you pick a state and tell me like something that's uh something that's michigan
Corey
28:08
michigan michigan's an ultimate swing state oh
Carter
28:10
oh that's a great idea uh nope we're fucked um the most recent poll there uh was february 22 to 25 uh tie 43 43 uh then there was one from the 24th to the 20 20th to the 24th by emerson college that had biden at 39 trump at 42 uh the one before that 44 45 biden's losing them them all gory
Carter
28:35
gory i mean he's losing them all morning consult that's
Corey
28:38
that's don't worry virginia purple
Corey
28:39
purple now blue virginia north
Corey
28:43
purple purple north carolina the new south will save us let's
Carter
28:47
let's do virginia uh okay
Corey
28:49
okay virginia's for lovers yeah
Carter
28:51
yeah i mean actually there was a good poll but it was a month ago um so virginia's not great uh north carolina did you say yeah
Corey
28:59
yeah you're gonna need north carolina
Carter
29:01
carolina Carolina's going to be fine because it's in the North, right? Yeah,
Corey
29:03
Yeah, it's North Carolina. Yeah, anyways, it's
Carter
29:05
it's 50 to 41, 45
Carter
29:07
45 to 35, 49 to 34.
Carter
29:14
No, and it doesn't get better because Newsom actually does worse than Biden, and Harris does a little bit better than both of those two, but still gets killed by Trump by over 10%. So North Carolina doesn't look good. it um okay
Carter
29:30
okay you know what though michigan did
Carter
29:32
did we do michigan already yeah
Corey
29:33
yeah that was like the first thing i asked you because like i just you know it's like their state slogan michigan is for lovers that's arizona
Carter
29:40
arizona is gonna be okay right though we got it oh shit we're
Carter
29:44
we're down by seven in arizona newsom is actually down by uh by 13 in arizona harris is down by eight
Carter
29:51
biden's only down by seven so biden is actually the best of the options so far far hmm yeah
Corey
30:00
well that's uh that's not very comforting i have to tell you that um but you know you're not the only one with statistics here my friend oh
Carter
30:08
oh yeah you got some good ones i do
Corey
30:10
well i want i want to launch off i think another part of the new york times poll which is that uh it turns out joe biden is pretty old donald trump's pretty old too but people People actually seem to care more that Joe Biden's pretty old. And 80% think he's too old for the job, including a majority of Democrats.
Corey
30:33
But I didn't tell you the statistics yet. I got curious and I thought to myself, what do the actuarial tables say here? Now, obviously, Donald
Corey
30:42
Donald Trump, Joe Biden, these are men
Corey
30:44
men who can get the best health care possible.
Carter
30:47
Oh, yeah, for sure. The
Carter
30:49
They're probably going to be okay. Donald
Corey
30:51
Donald Trump won't pay for it, but he can get it, right? Yeah. He can threaten and sue it here.
Corey
30:58
Joe Biden, man of his age, male, 7% chance if, you know, a man of his age, 7% chance dies in the next year. Oh, great. Donald Trump, 5% chance dies in the next year. Oh.
Carter
31:12
Well, I'll be honest with you. A one in 20 chance actually makes me pretty, pretty comfortable because I
Carter
31:18
I don't know if we discussed this in the pod before, but if he gets, if he dies, it's
Carter
31:23
it's not going to be good.
Corey
31:24
You're talking about Trump or Biden? Yeah.
Carter
31:27
Who do you think is going to be blamed if Trump dies? Not going to be old, you know, old father time.
Carter
31:33
It's not going to be old father time. I
Corey
31:34
I want to be clear. You don't die of age, right? It's got to go wrong. And as far as we know, as far as it's been reported, neither of them have anything wrong. So it's unlikely either of them is actually going to die in the next year. But that does seem to be the lottery ticket a lot of moderate Republicans have been holding on to, right? Not necessarily death, but that's something just like deus
Corey
31:55
deus ex machina, act of God takes Donald Trump out of this race, and they can go back to being normal here.
Carter
32:04
One can dream. Look,
Corey
32:05
Look, I think what is interesting to me is that this is a situation that so many of these same people helped exacerbate along the way. But to just put it all in a neat fucking bow,
Corey
32:18
courts don't look like they're going to save us. The
Corey
32:20
The people don't look like they're going to save us. And
Corey
32:23
And there doesn't seem to be anything else coming down the line. So all people have is hope that something happens, that
Corey
32:28
that something occurs that just shakes off this torpor that America has about this race that is allowing a man with dozens of indictments, you know, who owes hundreds of millions of dollars because of civil cases, who has, you know, been found to have sexually assaulted somebody. and that's just talking about the stuff from the last couple of years i haven't even talked about the insurrection specific or his shady business dealings or any of that stuff there's
Corey
32:57
there's just some like people are just hoping something's gonna happen and that seems to be all that's left right
Carter
33:05
all that's left i mean i did in fact send you the uh the the wind turbine mind that we can power our cars with
Corey
33:14
yeah that's right because
Carter
33:16
you you and i were you know like we're preparing for oh
Carter
33:20
we're preppers now right
Corey
33:21
right well you um you've got your eyes i i mean i feel like even saying the province you wouldn't want me to because people might find you no
Carter
33:30
don't don't mention where i'm going because you know that it's us who gets killed first well
Corey
33:34
well Well, me even saying province is probably too much, but... No,
Carter
33:37
No, I would say the general vicinity would be bad to say where I'm going. Oh,
Corey
33:42
Oh, sure. I don't tell anybody. Okay, yeah.
Carter
33:44
Yeah, but I've got a code to tell my friends where I'm going. Oh, wonderful. So I've got a
Corey
33:49
good. Is it Zuadaneo?
Carter
33:54
It has to do with skiing, so you're fucked.
Corey
33:56
It's over for me. But, you know, I was never going to go to the middle of the wilderness anyhow. I'm an indoor kid. I was going to... you know my escape is that i get to
Carter
34:05
to take you and your son skiing i'm very excited that's
Corey
34:07
that's true i'm looking forward to that i'm
Corey
34:09
i'm not i'm not i'm sorry i lied to you right there but he's
Carter
34:13
lots of great gear i can give you some gear so you'll stay warm and stuff oh
Corey
34:16
oh wonderful thank you thank
Corey
34:18
you you know i i guess i would say that the hobbies where it's like yeah the conditions could kill you but i've got mittens that just is not as appealing to me as you seem to think it should be just
Carter
34:33
and zane how are my friends with you two i
Carter
34:35
don't know you just don't do you don't do any of the fun stuff yeah
Carter
34:40
skiing though what we should do is we should arrange a ski day with the discord group you
Corey
34:45
know okay i'll let you do that i'll arrange that
Corey
34:48
i'm thinking i'll be part of the canadian diaspora somewhere in europe wherever wherever all good canadians and oh i
Carter
34:54
i like you i like you thinking you can get on a plane like
Carter
34:57
like this thing's gonna happen so quickly you're not gonna be getting on a plane like
Carter
35:01
like that's hilarious yeah
Carter
35:05
i i'm just gonna keep paying for amazon prime so i can get my stuff delivered the next day oh
Carter
35:11
really the important thing yeah
Corey
35:12
yeah because that your planes will be gone but amazon prime drivers will still show up to work because we are in a late capitalism hellscape that's true yeah
Carter
35:21
yeah it's gonna happen my friend okay
Carter
35:23
amazon will We'll survive the apocalypse.
Corey
35:26
Yeah, it's like a conference.
Carter
35:27
conference. Bezos has a plan. It's true.
Corey
35:30
may have lost a bit here. Is there anything else you want to say about the current state of the American election? Super Tuesday?
Corey
35:36
Court cases? No, I think
Carter
35:37
think that we are well and truly fucked is, in fact, the conclusion that we're looking for.
Corey
35:42
for. Okay, good. Very nice.