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Corey
0:10
Carter, Shannon Phillips, Corey Hogan, and Annalise
Corey
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I can hear it just fine. Is
Carter
0:32
Is there anybody on YouTube that can clarify whether or not they can hear it? I
Corey
0:35
I don't know if there's anybody on YouTube who can hear the music or not. I
Carter
0:38
I hear the music this time. Like, is this...
Carter
0:41
Are we fucking live again?
Carter
0:49
We have to exude professionalism on
Carter
0:52
on this podcast. You know I've talked to you about this. And this is...
Corey
0:57
well i wasn't even
Carter
0:59
remotely ready i was like in the middle of a sentence
Corey
1:04
you're supposed to host this is my way of saying we move on this is my way of saying we start the show now how you doing doing
Carter
1:10
well but i'm pissed with you well
Corey
1:11
well i'm a little pissed with you too you know i'll tell you why yeah
Corey
1:15
because i don't like you and i have to spend an hour with you you talking i
Carter
1:18
asked for 45 minutes tonight we could do it for 45 minutes um
Carter
1:23
um i'm happy to well
Carter
1:25
well zane's not here you were supposed to ask katie to join us katie merrifield the uh british columbia strategist and you did not uh
Corey
1:34
uh to be fair to me you said we should invite katie and i said yeah i'd be okay with that and i thought i naturally assumed naturally
Carter
1:42
we should invite so So this is what happens when we don't have Zane. When we say we need something done, it's we the other guy. Otherwise, it would be me, I will get something done. When I say we, you have to get it done.
Carter
1:55
How long did you work with me? I just don't
Carter
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don't understand. I mean, you say that, but I'd never... Okay,
Corey
2:01
here's what we're going to do.
Corey
2:03
All right, here's what we're going to do. Let's
Carter
2:06
Kate. We're going to...
Carter
2:08
Just fucking call her. Do we have the ability to put a phone through
Corey
2:12
this thing? I honestly don't know. Oh, and I don't feel particularly inclined to figure that out. So how about instead we bring our usual level of professionalism talking about the weekly events. Now,
Corey
2:23
little peek behind the curtain for our listeners here. It's actually been quite some time since we've gotten together because I know when you listened to the last episode where we were talking about leadership
Corey
2:33
leadership contests, you thought, wow, this is such a timeless feeling episode.
Corey
2:38
You were right. We recorded it weeks ago and we dropped it because zane's on vacation we
Corey
2:44
only have to not screw this up once yeah
Corey
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in the way easier in
Corey
2:48
in the course of zane being on vacation and
Carter
2:50
and here we are what four minutes in fucked
Carter
2:53
fucked it up a number of times already well
Corey
2:55
well three minutes so uh screw you like
Carter
2:58
like one mistake a minute right now that we're i think i
Corey
3:02
definitely think that it's going to get better from this point
Carter
3:08
Welcome to The Strategists.
Carter
3:10
I'm Zane Velji, and he's Zane Velji, and we're here today to talk about something.
Corey
3:15
Yeah, that's exactly how he does it. You nailed it. You want to talk about this essay contest? I mean, this is the main reason I wanted to chat with you here. This is where Zane would usually tee it up.
Carter
3:27
know what? This is exactly what we should talk about. You know, the United States has got the former president being investigated, mitigated uh having you know fbi agents raid his home let's talk about an essay contest for under 25 youth in uh in alberta that had five entries uh
Carter
3:44
uh really this is something that cannot be screwed up cory it can't be screwed up there's going to be five entries all
Carter
3:51
all you need to i mean you could almost do it randomly and select you know three of the five and award them something and it's going to come off fine it's going to be just fine no
Corey
4:03
reversing this a little bit especially for anybody who's not in alberta here there's
Corey
4:07
there's an uh a news story that has consumed the media like this
Carter
4:11
is not just a
Corey
4:11
a twitter thing there's mainstream
Corey
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media has written about this on a where there's been international coverage of this particular story there
Corey
4:19
there was an essay contest contest um
Corey
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young women in alberta age 17 to 25 the topic do you remember steven the way it was phrased something
Carter
4:30
something like what makes alberta great something like that it was pathetic no women no women in like i'll find it you you yeah
Corey
4:37
yeah this is where we this is where i guess i'm beginning to appreciate zane but yeah
Corey
4:41
this contest goes forward um
Corey
4:43
um it is run by the legislative legislative assembly office of alberta some mlas are on the judging panel apparently these are all details by the way we don't even necessarily know the first night but
Corey
4:53
but the the legislative assembly website posts the three winners of this contest first place second place third place and the third place one is
Corey
5:01
is wild it's totally wild it's saying things like women are not exactly equal to men and talking about how there's a need to populate alberta with albertans so we don't have to bring in foreigners
Corey
5:12
foreigners like it's like some deeply troubling shit and not not kind of like these
Corey
5:17
these are not long essays by the way these are not long essays but almost every paragraph was deeply concerning in this particular one and
Corey
5:27
and somehow this became the third place one and was put on a government website as an example of drumroll steven her
Carter
5:33
her uh her vision inspires Inspires, um, which is the, the actual title so that people were being asked to, uh,
Carter
5:41
uh, create an inspiring vision for the province of Alberta. And apparently the inspiring vision, uh,
Carter
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uh, was that we should produce more babies, uh, so we don't have to bring in outsiders babies. Uh, and women shouldn't try and get men's jobs. Uh, cause obviously men, uh,
Carter
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uh, men are better at jobs, uh, that I'm paraphrasing Yeah, I mean, I laugh because
Corey
6:02
because otherwise I would cry. It's crazy that this happened. And this
Corey
6:07
this is a great
Corey
6:08
great example of government managing an issue about as poorly as possible because they've created a drip campaign for themselves where over four days there's just been hit after hit after hit instead of just ripping the Band-Aid off on day one, taking the lumps. You
Carter
6:22
know who I feel bad for? I don't feel bad for the Associate Minister of Women. I don't feel bad for the Parliamentary Secretary for Women. I feel bad for S. Silver, which is the name that was attributed to this essay, because here's a young woman who doesn't understand maybe politics at all and thought that she was actually being asked to provide her vision or maybe her parents' vision, probably more aptly, for the province of Alberta. She submitted it and she had no idea that she was going to spend the second week in August in a firestorm about her ideas and how out of date they are and how bad they are. And a young woman right now, none of us really know who this woman is and I hopefully hope that no news organizations or anybody go looking for her, because
Carter
7:09
because this is, this is tragic that the UCP have put this poor person, young person, into a position of creating a firestorm. that's uh the the ideas
Carter
7:21
ideas are wrong the ideas aren't great but this person who brought them forward um this
Carter
7:26
this isn't a way to teach people you know you're not learning under fire here you know we don't put people in front of uh in front of mass uh social media squads uh to be tramped down when their ideas don't fashion to the rest of us it was it was really tragic i thought i really i
Corey
7:42
i agree we talked about this the first night i was i was a little unnerved when the the entire internet went down on this not because i like i like
Corey
7:50
like the ideas are they're
Corey
7:51
they're so retrograde right yeah
Corey
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uh we don't know this the age could be anywhere from 17 to 25 uh either way i think like just it's it's troubling but
Corey
8:01
idea that a government would platform this and then amplify it in a way that is going to get that social media backlash is also deeply irresponsible on
Corey
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on the government's point of view they should have known that they were setting this individual up to
Corey
8:13
to take this kind of criticism and i can only imagine how crushing it would be to be like oh great i got the third place thing you
Corey
8:19
you know again somewhat
Corey
8:20
somewhat oblivious i think of the political realities and then having the entire province shit down your throat international news about how this is a fascist essay and the government has some responsibility for that and you know i'm not i'm
Corey
8:34
i'm not enthused of course with how the government ran these things i feel really bad for the person involved, but
Corey
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but not because I think I'd go out and vote for them. Fuck no, would I run away from those views?
Carter
8:45
Yeah, that wasn't her
Carter
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her job. Her job was not to present, you know, a platform for being elected. She wrote an essay. It was informed by, you know, her
Carter
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her own experience. That experience is
Carter
9:00
is very limited, I would imagine. I
Carter
9:02
I mean, but how does this even get put up, Corey? I
Carter
9:05
you've worked there how does this how does this go from a a bad submission to third place uh in in this type of a contest so
Corey
9:14
so first of all we didn't get to the punch line yet which is there were only five entries i
Carter
9:21
could only be three given given the fact that i
Corey
9:23
so i thought there could only be three as well um yeah so you asked me how does it get there i'll I'll say right off the bat, one of the things that people who've
Corey
9:32
who've worked there have a good understanding of, but it's from the outside, it's just like a murky mass of government, is
Corey
9:40
is the Legislative Assembly, which ran this contest and the MLAs, that's not the government, right?
Corey
9:46
right? That's the Legislative Assembly. The government is a separate beast, a separate organization that
Corey
9:52
has different protocols and controls. And I truly believe that this would never have gotten through a government lens. It's just it's not possible
Corey
9:59
possible with the number of eyes that have on it that somebody
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