Transcript
Zain
0:02
This is a strategist episode 1840 my name is Zain Velji with me as always Corey Hogan and of course Stephen Carter as can I can I test your accent no
Carter
0:14
no you can't the only word I got I learned how to say Jeff in New Zealand How do you say GIF
Corey
0:19
GIF in New Zealand?
Corey
0:23
GIF. Is this GIF? It's GIF, actually.
Corey
0:29
It's GIF. I can't top that. Let's keep it moving. That's good.
Carter
0:32
Yeah, keep moving. Keep moving. Keep moving. Improvise, Jim. You don't want to overplan it. Carter,
Zain
0:39
heard the, do you know how to do the haka? No, now I do need to intervene and say. I did learn how to do the haka.
Zain
0:46
You will not be doing any hakas on this.
Zain
0:49
no no no this is the patreon this is uncensored it's okay it's okay yeah people pay for this mild level of racism
Corey
0:54
racism the car is about to deploy fiduciary duty as the chair of the board to the shareholders which is the three of us to keep steven carter from doing a haka on a recorded medium this
Carter
1:06
is true um okay
Zain
1:07
okay if he if he doesn't he actually wants to violate new zealand indigenous rights and i
Carter
1:12
i learned about the haka i learned about all kinds of other uh maori traditions and and i ate their food so i'm you're
Zain
1:21
you're pretty much one of them i would say which means
Zain
1:24
this point you should be engaging you
Carter
1:27
know what is ironic about all their food no
Carter
1:35
it's all potatoes and sweet potatoes and chicken yeah
Carter
1:40
was brown that was good no
Zain
1:45
so did you did you learn how to do the are we gonna do it for the people no i
Carter
1:47
i i watched the haka you know what i loved the new zealand culture it was fantastic sounds like
Carter
1:52
you're on the defensive
Carter
1:57
i've always been a friend of the new zealand people let's
Corey
1:59
god gracefully move on from this this
Zain
2:04
why are you why are you so concerned is there a why why are you so like today's
Carter
2:08
today's the day i'm finally gonna get cancer
Zain
2:11
you think they'd come after us so they probably will but do you think by guilt by association is a thing that ever happens come on yeah
Carter
2:18
yeah all three of us are down going down cory
Zain
2:20
cory there's no reason you should be concerned
Carter
2:21
cory's the only one with a real job we have to actually think about
Zain
2:25
always yeah we should remember that
Zain
2:27
more one of the people who doesn't remember that is is you carter uh and and and you know speaking of jobs me and jif you
Zain
2:34
you and you and jif yeah
Zain
2:36
did you add an o cory did you have to do you have an o to
Corey
2:39
to add to the mix before i get going here uh just the o that's in the title cfo uh and there's a c and an f before it then
Corey
2:47
then there's an o is
Carter
2:49
is that what your title is how
Corey
2:50
how long do you think airlines i
Zain
2:52
i don't know how long do you
Zain
2:52
how long do you think he workshopped on that joke without the transition material yeah
Zain
2:57
yeah okay let's talk okay corey let's do this our sponsor is in a bit of hot water okay um do you want to do you want to lay down what's going on with our sponsor sponsor uh and and i guess this is you know the patrons the most trusted that's true this is the folks folks
Zain
3:13
folks we need to ask you should
Corey
3:14
should we should we drop flair airlines after what cory's about to tell you right now
Corey
3:17
it's uh yeah not not our sponsor but yeah flair airlines um their cfo this this is actually pretty dark and pretty sad but the cfo of flair airlines uh had teenagers drinking at their house and then one of them drove after having drinking and got killed like i don't think the person driving got killed but one of the people who was a passenger did and so the cfo has been charged with manslaughter in
Corey
3:42
in the i believe great state of georgia if i'm not mistaken
Corey
3:46
and uh what's what's crazy about this is it seems to all of what i've just described happened before flare airlines hired him yeah
Carter
3:55
no one thought to ask is there something we should know
Corey
3:58
why you asked that question in an interview is there anything else you want to let us know know about your application yeah uh
Carter
4:05
uh nothing nothing relevant but i may be charged with manslaughter involuntary manslaughter i
Zain
4:11
i mean and in the flare airlines context that is nothing relevant i mean it is uh it is it's day-to-day one would say i mean it feels like it is day-to-day no no no cory's what is he what he's trying to censor us carter i
Carter
4:23
don't know what's going on today this
Carter
4:25
this is insane he's
Zain
4:25
he's in the mood i know back with carter just jump back into it just a quick A quick, a quick, a quick, Carter,
Corey
4:34
Carter, I didn't want you to do it. I actually, I
Corey
4:37
you to go up to the line.
Corey
4:38
line. It's also not a visual medium, Stephen. No,
Carter
4:40
wanted you to go up to the line. The hack is a visual, visual experience. You,
Zain
4:44
you, you went to the line now. You've touched, you've touched that line. Corey, we, we should, we should ask our patrons whether we should drop Flare Airlines as an official sponsor, at the very least deprioritize their merch on our store. You know, they have been playing for, paying for that top left placement for a very long long
Corey
5:00
long time now it's been like
Corey
5:02
yeah has nothing to do with our remembering how to change those things everything you know it's also in
Zain
5:08
in some ways it's opportune that that you know they have asked us as part of our collective long-term sponsorship with them to ensure that the shirts say not our sponsor it's and it's a good time for people to know we're not associated with the current charges of manslaughter uh that are being warned by the cfo and flare airlines themselves so So I guess what I'm wanting to say is...
Corey
5:29
is... Don't think that's...
Zain
5:31
Yeah, no, I think that's how Brad Slaughter works. I don't think Blair Airlines, the corporate entity
Corey
5:33
entity is involved. That's
Zain
5:34
That's how I read it.
Zain
5:36
Do you know Georgia law? I don't think you do. Carter?
Carter
5:40
No, I don't know Georgia law. Exactly.
Zain
5:41
Exactly. But Corey, you can't just pretend like you know what's going on. That's a fair point. Yeah, no, absolutely.
Zain
5:49
Carter, what do you want to talk about? Do you want to talk about Krista Freeland or do you want to talk about Canada Post? We can go in either direction. We'll go in both. But you are the special guest back on the show. Joe, which one do you want to go to first?
Carter
5:58
I want to go with Canada Post. Our old buddy Steve McKinnon was in the news. Our old colleague. Our old
Zain
6:02
old colleague, now Labor Minister Steve McKinnon, after saying he would not order Canada Post back to work,
Zain
6:08
he's ordering Canada Post back to work until May.
Zain
6:10
What do you think of our buddy's move, our friend's move, and let's talk about the winners and the losers of where this new phase of the Canada Post strike puts us. Carter, go first.
Carter
6:24
I think it was a great move. I think it's, if anything, it's overdue. It's been a full month that we've been waiting for this strike to end. I don't know about you guys, but I'm waiting for a couple of important pieces of mail that are important to me. And I couldn't believe, I still cannot believe that this strike has gone on for a month. You would think you'd start to see some sort of bend from either the union or from Canada Post. I don't think that that's going to happen. And so I think it's entirely appropriate that the minister step in and return normal service for a period of time. I'm not sure if May is the right timeline. I think that getting us through the Christmas season is really essential. This is the only time I think the Canada Post may be an essential service. So getting us through the Christmas season is certainly important.
Zain
7:15
Corey, this has been going on since November 15. So we're roughly less than a month now that this strike has been happening. beginning.
Zain
7:21
McKinnon ordering the workers back, good move, bad move on his part, and then we'll get into the strategy of both sides in terms of this negotiation and where this puts them.
Corey
7:32
Well, obviously, this is all done through the Industrial Relations Board, right? The technical language was, hey, if you guys don't think a deal's within immediate reach, send them back to work.
Corey
7:43
But I think we all agree a deal's probably not within immediate reach you know it is a reminder that whenever you have a strike or a lockout or combination of the both it can um you know
Corey
7:54
know one starts as a strike rolls into a lockout right you really are are creating consequences in a lot of ways that are often disadvantageous to all and look there's a place for labor action i'm not suggesting otherwise but um the longer something like this goes on with a service like canada post the more we all move on with our lives and And Carter, you made the quip about you don't think Canada Post is essential except at this time of year.
Corey
8:17
I think the risk is we're learning they're maybe not even essential at this time of year for a lot of Canadians. Now, small businesses, for sure, are hurting about it. Lots of people who are stuck in their habits, for sure. It's very frustrating for them. But if you are Canada Post, a service that over time has gone from delivering
Corey
8:35
delivering on the weekends to not, delivering to your house to not, right? right? Many of us are now on community mailboxes. It's starting to feel less and less essential, especially with all of the parcel delivery services that exist out there that we interact on a day-in, day-out basis. So I think this is not just about saving Christmas. I really feel in some ways this is about saving the essential nature of Canada Post.
Corey
9:00
If Canada Post were privatized tomorrow, and if the monopoly was gone and private mail carriers could come in tomorrow,
Corey
9:07
I kind of think 70% of Canadians would not care. And that is very different from the Canada Post labor actions in the past, including in the not so distant past.
Zain
9:18
I think Corey might be exposing Carter in terms of where the fault lines are for Canada Post's union and their workers here, but also for the overall organization itself. Tell me this, before we move on to those two parties at play, for McKinnon and the Liberals, Is
Zain
9:34
Is this too little too late to save Christmas? Have they waited in, but also waited in in a strategically poor time where the backlog won't save Christmas for many people and now the liberals are a player in that drama in some ways and can be politically blamed? What do you think of that as a premise? I
Carter
9:52
think that premise is really good, Zane. I think that this is maybe a week too late. I think that, you know, what's the difference between three weeks of strike action and four weeks of strike action? I think that three weeks is plenty. People understand the message. They see the impact. impact. Corey's not kidding when he's talking about the impact on small business. This is a significant set of impact on small businesses, and it
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